The conversation below is an exchange between two people who until recently were not aware of each other’s practices. Both Jeroen Boomgaard and Yane Calovski were invited to contribute to the symposium. Knowing their work and domains of interest we thought that an animating discussion could occur. So we asked them if they would be willing to try to start a dialogue. During our Skype talk, Jeroen said: “Let’s try and see how far we can get for now.” The phrasing of Jeroen and Yane’s email exchange is preserved in order to maintain the immediate texture of an improvised email exchange.