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Imagining the museum

Sebastian Cichocki talks to Hristina Ivanoska and Yane Calovski

Sebastian: Close your eyes, relax, count to 50, and now imagine the museum, the perfect museum for Skopje... What would it be, what would it look like?

Yane: I followed your instructions and closed my eyes, relaxed by breathing evenly and counted to 50. I fell asleep, and it was great. I didn’t dream of the museum at all. I guess this makes me think that, in the context of our discussion, the museum for me is based on reality.

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Richard Torchia

Spiral Story

Put the best object you know next to the Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls, the Red Woods. The big things always win.

Walter De Maria, “The Importance of Natural Disasters”, 1960

Following a now-classic strategy of recording a particular process through all of its consequences, Hristina Ivanoska and Yane Calovski assingned themselves the task of traveling in a route conforming to the shape of a spiral through their native Macedonia. Nature and Social Studies: Spiral Trip, the multilayered work generated by this charge, first conceived in 2000, continues to unfold. Starting from Izvor, the geographic midpoint of the country, and proceeding to Skopje, its cultural and political hub, Ivanoska and Calovski proposed to make this journey in seven consecutive days, employing any means necessary. Harnessing the forward drive stored in this elemental form to animate their journey through a territory, tempered at the time by political and social flux, the team performed the spiral as a physical drawing. Humble in its material essence, it is monumental in its scope.

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Elena Filipovic

The Conditional Perfect Museum

The identification of immediate with past experience, the recurrence of past action or recreation in the present, amounts to a participation between the ideal and the real, imagination and direct apprehension, symbol and substance... Thanks to this reduplication, the experience is at once imaginative and empirical, at once an evocation and direct perception, real without being merely actual, ideal without being merely abstract, the ideal real, the essential, the extra temporal.

Samuel Beckett, Proust (1931)

The perfect conditional is an odd grammatical tense. Speaking in the complex future-past-potential temporality of the would have been, the perfect conditional designates an action or event that has not yet occurred but might have, if only another event had happened first.

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